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Saturday, September 1, 2007

New Terms of Service Discussion

Join in the Discussion of the new LG15 TOS.

by immortal1
on Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:59 pm

I had some initial reactions last night about this post but decided to hold off until today so I could read the TOS with fresh eyes. Now that I've done that my first reactions have only been reinforced.

The biggest problem I see is that UVCs (User Video Creator as defined by the TOS) have control of their original work is they have "original" status but not if they have "derivative" status. First thing that pops out at me is the defintion of intellectual property.

"TOS wrote:Derivative Videos are videos that are derivative works of the intellectual property owned by lonelygirl15 and relating to the lonelygirl15 Series, Kate, or other Series Spin-Offs, including, but not limited to, ideas, characters, symbols, storylines, images, music, sounds, or video from the Series, Kate, or other Series Spin-Offs ("lonelygirl15 Intellectual Property")."

So what doesn't that cover? Let's say I make a video of a guy staking out a female teenager's house and suggest he is a watcher. Is that derivative? What if the girl turns out to be a vampire slayer? I mean who really is being derivative of who? Let's take Dr. Immant. Dr. Immant has a symbol at the end of his videos that represents the Order he represents. The symbol represents the unique history of the Order. The symbol can also be interpreted as representing a faction of the lg15 universe Order. It's no skin off my back to reveal that history, give a unique name to the Immant Universe Order and claim original status. Anyone else who hasn't used specific lg15 references can use the same method to sanitize their work of lg15 elements.

"TOS wrote:lonelygirl15 hereby grants all Registered Users a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty free, irrevocable license to make Derivative Videos using the lonelygirl15 Intellectual Property on the following conditions: 1) the Derivative Video is created and distributed for non-commercial purposes; 2) the Derivative Video is uploaded or submitted to the Website; 3) a link to the Website is included wherever and whenever a Derivative Video is distributed, posted, submitted, or uploaded anywhere other than the Website; and 4) other people can make their own Derivative Videos from your Derivative Video under the same terms and conditions as this license."

For the life of me I do not understand the logic of allowing this! First off, lonelygirl15 is allowing use of their IP for a number of reasons but to sum it up, however small or large-they get something out of it. What do UVCs of derivative works get when someone else uses their IP? The way I see it this encourages people to take short cuts and take advantage of others hard work and creativity.

Under this rule someone can create a Facility F (for FUBAR) adopt the look and feel of Facility J, attribute it back to FacilityJ through a link which will only give the appearance that FacilityJ is behind it and then proceed to either intentionally or unintentionally introduce something that doesn't make sense, reveal something that isn't what FacilityJ had planned or just do any of a number of things that would only hurt what Facility J has established.

The Flock was something written on the white board. I recognize that it represents the religious members of the Hymn of One and that is lg15 IP. Anyone can do a story about members of the Flock. Anyone can create characters for "new girls" in fact, I'm the one who encouraged that! However, my story revolves around a certain group within the Flock. My characters and that concept should be protected from use by someone else.

"The Creators wrote:As we have discussed, we are working on ways to allow people to monetize these Derivative Videos on our site."

I really don't like to talk about this. I think it sets up an unfair expectation. I've done a lot of research on revenue sharing and 1) very few people qualify for it and 2) it's not enough to sustain a production. Anyone who has a revver acct knows that. You guys know that, you put a paypal button on your site.

Unless you have a plan for promoting our vids so that we get tens of thousands of views or brokering product placement deals we shouldn't be talking about monetization- at least not give the impression that it will yield anything more than what people were getting with revver.

I really would have preferred more conversation in the TOS discussion thread.

Join in the Discussion of the new LG15 TOS.


Blogspot Frank on LGPedia

As part of our retrospective look back at the strange Cassie events of September/October 2006 we have to ask the question "Who was Frank?" According to LGPedia: Blogspot Frank was the first Frank to show within the Breeniverse and is more than likely the direct or indirect source and inspiration for all of the other "Franks". Frank was first alluded to by Cassie on her YouTube Channel page with the phrase "Frank is Waking". Eventually someone found a blog that had a lot of similarities with things that were transpiring in the Cassieiswatching story. Soon this Frank's blog comments were flooded with CiW followers. Many of these posters were exceptionally abusive and there was concern that if this really were some poor schizophrenic guy with a blog he could be pushed over the edge. These fears were alleviated when a code was found in the first letters of the lines of the blog.

A Voice Within - Frank's blog

Now, on Frank's blog he says he is from AZUSA!

From LGPeida:

In the tradition of small towns in and out of fiction, like Roswell, New Mexico or Eureka, Azusa, California, has had more than its share in the creation of big mysteries. There have been many videos by various producers, both confirmed canon and otherwise that have been located here. It has even been wondered if Daniel mistook Azusa to mean Arizona, USA in his video Aleister Crowley where he relates some nefarious activity surrounding the infamous occultist took place. It seems that little Azusa is often mentioned in the same breath with Satanic Ritual Abuse, something which fed greatly wild speculation among Lonelygirl15 fans that the swimming hole would be the site of the ceremony.

AZUSA on LGPedia.
Casket of Tears - theAAshow
What we found in the pool...

LGpedia needs your HELP!
Anonymous said...
"Frank was first alluded to by Cassie on her YouTube Channel page with the phrase "Frank is Waking". Eventually someone found a blog that had a lot of similarities with things that were transpiring in the Cassieiswatching story."

I could be wrong here and Im too lazy to figure out how to go back and check, but thats not how I remember it going down. I thought the first mention was somthing about "Frank has been more help than you"... speculation followed about who the hell is frank and then the blog was discovered. The story then goes that Cassie has possessed Frank (?) and he was the one who made th CiW vids (he admitted that it was in his capability- he was a video editor) It wasn't until much later that "Frank is waking" went down. (At least thats how it happened in my head?) Oh how I miss Frank and Cassie.

Do you know who Frank was. Do you have a theory on what happened? Tell us what you think or what you know in a comment below.

Juggling for ZOEY

In another act of random IRC insanity Zoey appears to be convincing the IRC TEAM to juggle as they relax after solving the Music Mashup of Doom.

Take a look:

Shadows - TheOrdersDefenseTeam

We may have failed this mission but rest assured the next will be a success!

Music by Tribe of Circle
Rien Ne Disparait Jamais Vraiment


As we look back on the events of September 2006 I am sure we are all thinking about one thing: Cassie!

Cassieiswatching on LGPedia

A New York Times blogger, Virginia Heffernan, who had been extensively covering the story of lonelygirl15, reported on cassieiswatching's first video before it was released in this entry , describing it as "[a] renegade lonelygirl-spinoff, which has some attenuated ties to the original". When asked about it through e-mail, Ms. Heffernan said:

"I was tipped off to it in weird ways: Morse-code text messages, Skype
IMs with a mysterious name, and that screwy audio file. The only
proof that what the person was saying was true is that he/she/they/it
had a photo and the coordinates of the swimming hole, so I believed
that there had been some contact with the original creators. But who

Lgpedia Needs Your Help!

Interpreting the Music Mashup of Doom

demonicpagan Posted:
Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:38 am:

"Don't Hate Me" "Dirty Little Secret" "Crazy in Love" "It Feels Good" "We're At The Top Of The World" "Scenario" "This Is Me (Bad Boy Remix)" "Am I Ready" "She Looks At Me" "If I Could Talk, I'd Tell You" "All The Things She Said" "It's Gonna Be Me" "Here and Now" "So Help Me God" "I'm That Type Of Guy" "Work"
"$85 bucks an hour" "New Beginnings" "Hands Clean" "No Myth" "Same Song" "She's Crafty" "Buried Myself Alive" "Torn in Two" "I'm A Fool" "All 4 Love" "Whats My Age Again" "10 Year Old" "What Would You Do" "No More Questions" "Where Is My Mind" "Since You've Been Gone" "This Charming Man" "Fell In Love With A Girl" "Cool It Now" "It Takes Two" "Somebody Told Me" "Danger (Been So Long)" "All Downhill From Here" "Here's Where The Story Ends" "Cruel Summer" "Girl All the Bad Guys Want" "Game Time" "Heros and Villians" "Where'd You Go" "Prevent This Tragedy"

My interpretation:

Don't hate me, but I have a dirty little secret. I'm crazy in love and it feels good. We're at the top of the world. Here is the scenario. This is me (a bad boy). Am I ready to go through with this? She looks at me and if I could talk, I'd tell you all the things she said. It's going to be me, here and now, so help me God. I'm that type of guy.

I now work. I get paid $85 bucks an hour. I have a new beginning with clean hands. This isn't a myth.

It's the same song. She's crafty. I'm going to bury myself alive. I'm torn in two. I'm just a fool for love. What is my age again? I feel like a 10 year old. What would you do?

Enough with the questions. Where is my mind?

Since you've been gone, this charming man fell in love with a girl.

Cool it now! It takes two (to tango). Somebody told me that there is danger, yet it's been so long. Things are going downhill from here. This is where story ends. It has been a cruel summer. She's the girl all the bad guys want. It's game time. Time to play heroes and villians.

Where did you go? We need to prevent this tragedy.
Do YOU agree with this interpretation? Can you clarify what it means? Leave us a comment below with your thoughts.

Erica Pike:.Gavin and Charlie (ACO)

"A wise man keeps his options open."- Erica Pike:.O.o.D.:.O.E.:.O.o.T:.S2E5

Music: Girlfriend by Avril LavigneCourtesy of RCA Records (USA)

Friday, August 31, 2007

How Do You Feel About the NEW LG15 TOS?

Now that the new LG15 TOS has been released we want to know how UGC creators and other fans feel about them. Do they meet your needs? Do you understand what they mean for you? Do they meet all your concerns? What would you like to see different? Leave a comment below and let us know how you feed about them.

Welcome Carly Jones

From LGPedia: Carly Jones is the actress who plays Mallory in the lonelygirl15 web series. She has been to 11 countries and knows how to dance and use power tools. She is 5'8" and weighs 120 pounds.

Carly Jones on LGPedia.

Carly Jones in Hot Date.

Carly Jones on MySpace.


LGpedia needs your HELP!


by The Creators
on Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:12 pm

Hey everyone,

We posted the new Terms of Service! We listened to what the community had to say and crafted a Terms of Service that will encourage fan fiction and original videos.

In a nutshell, the Terms of Service allows people to create what we are calling Derivative Videos (videos containing our intellectual property) as long as these videos are 1) non-commercial, 2) uploaded to our site, 3) if they are uploaded to other websites (which we are allowing) they must contain a link back to our website, and 4) other people can make derivative videos from these videos under these same terms.

Basically, this means that if someone creates a new character that is "fighting the order," that person can put the video anywhere they want as long as they also put it on our site, don't make money from the video, put a link in the description when it is uploaded to other sites, and let other people build from that story/character. As we have discussed, we are working on ways to allow people to monetize these Derivative Videos on our site. Give us time for this, it took Google six months!

For original video creators, we are saying that they control their copryights. They own the videos and can assign a creative commons license to the community if they like - it is completely up to them. Also, when they upload the video to our site, they are giving us permission to monetize those videos through banner ads or other advertising on our site. We will not package these videos and make DVD's because our license to "use" these videos terminates when the video is removed from our site.

Hope that solves everything. We have thought long and hard about this issue and only want what is best for the community. Please understand that we are a business and cannot totally relinquish our copyrights or limit our ability to sell advertising space on our website. Ownership of copyrights and selling advertising on our website is the only way we can continue to produce this show and function.

Thank you and we really hope this opens the door to many more great fan videos and original storylines.


An Invitation - StormGenie

Suzanne takes your hand
And she leads you to the river
She is wearing rags and feathers
From Salvation Army counters
And the sun pours down like honey
On our lady of the harbour
And she shows you where to look
Among the garbage and the flowers
There are heroes in the seaweed
There are children in the morning
They are leaning out for love
And they will lean that way forever
While Suzanne holds the mirror
And you want to travel with her
And you want to travel blind
And you know that you can trust her
For she's touched your perfect body
with her mind.


Please watch and then read the petition and sign it!!!

Home Invasion - jonastko (LG15)

Those f$#%rs came for Emma and I threw down! Sort of...

Music: "Praise Lord from the
Heavens" composed by Rachmaninov and performed by the Kyiv Chamber Choir
From LGPedia:
Daniel posted to the forum that Jonas's parents "were shot and bleeding a lot, but still breathing. We dropped them off at the hospital and took Emma to a safe place."

This is the first time Daniel and Jonas have been together since Bree's death, which took place over 3 weeks ago.
Instead of the typical "Watcher" uniforms, these Watchers wear rugged clothing.

It is unclear whether these are watchers or shadows in this video. It would appear that they are watchers because shadows, as told by Alex in Proceed with Caution, are augmented by pharmaceuticals. They are stronger and faster than the average person. These men seem to be quite weak.

The video suggests that The Order did not use the façade of "The Ceremony" to lure Emma, but rather planned to take her by force.

Daniel posted to the forum that Emma had been given sleeping pills by Jonas. Jonas had planned to take her out of the house on his own, however, the home invasion occured changing this plan abruptly.

Daniel posted in the forum that Emma had still not woken up from the sleeping pills and was safe with Jonas and himself.

Daniel posted to the forum that he went there as a result of Taylor's video and arrived as this was all going down. He states that he intends to contact Taylor and Sarah later that night.

The Ringing and drop of audio volume at the 0:47 second mark appears to have been caused by an explosive charge used on the door allowing the watchers access to the house, the beeping prior to this would support this claim.

Lgpedia Needs Your Help!

Ultimatum - KateModern

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New Web Sites Aim for TV Experience

"Watching video online in small, fuzzy boxes is heading the way of rabbit ears. "


Thursday, August 30, 2007


As the Mashup Music Puzzle of Doom entered its "Nth" day the puzzle was finally cracked open with a little help from our old dear friend Tachyon.

Song 44 has now been correctly identified as "Heroes and Villians" by Brian Wilson.

How did Tachyon help you ask? Take a look:

Taking Tachyon's advice the team decided to look into Brian Wilson songs. They also took the clip for song 44, reversed it and slowed it and....and then POW!!!!! They finally figured it that it was "Heroes and Villians" by Brian Wilson.

Reversed Clip for song 44 - http://www.zshare.net/audio/33994498f3af3f / with Clip from original "Heros and Friends" song - http://www.shanikosystems.com/maddison/GODDAMNIT.wav

So, the final list now reads:
# - Timestamp – Title - Artist

1 - 0:03 "Don't Hate Me" by The Get Up Kids
2 - 0:06 "Dirty Little Secret" by All-American Rejects
3 - 0:09 "Crazy in Love" by Beyonce
4 - 0:12 "It Feels Good" by Tony Toni Tone
5 - 0:16 "We're At The Top Of The World" by Juliana Theory
6 - 0:17 "Scenario" by A Tribe Called Quest
7 - 0:20 "This Is Me (Bad Boy Remix)" by Dream feat. P. Diddy and Kain
8 - 0:23 "Am I Ready" by Spitalfield
9 - 0:26 "She Looks At Me" by That Dog
10 - 0:26 "If I Could Talk, I'd Tell You" by The Lemonheads
11 - 0:30 "All The Things She Said" by T.A.T.U.
12 - 0:33 "It's Gonna Be Me" by 'N Sync
13 - 0:37 "Here and Now" by Letters to Cleo
14 - 0:40 "So Help Me God" by DC Talk
15 - 0:40 "I'm That Type Of Guy" by LL Cool J
16 - 0:44 "Work" by Jimmy Eat World
17 - 0:46 "$85 bucks an hour" by Twiztid
18 - 0:53 "New Beginnings" by Finch
19 - 0:59 "Hands Clean" by Alanis Morrisette
20 - 1:01 "No Myth" by Michael Penn
21 - 1:02 "Same Song" by Tupac/Digital Underground
22 - 1:06 "She's Crafty" by the Beastie Boys
23 - 1:08 "Buried Myself Alive" by The Used
24 - 1:11 "Torn in Two" by Wax
25 - 1:15 "I'm A Fool" by American Hi-Fi
26 - 1:20 "All 4 Love" by Color Me Badd
27 - 1:24 "Whats My Age Again" by Blink 182
28 - 1:26 “10 Year Old” by Mc Chris
29 - 1:29 "What Would You Do" by City High
30 - 1:34 "No More Questions" by Eazy-e
31 - 1:41 "Where Is My Mind" by The Pixies
32 - 1:43 "Since You've Been Gone" by Kelly Clarkson
33 - 1:49 "This Charming Man" by The Smiths
34 - 1:55 "Fell In Love With A Girl" by The White Stripes
35 - 1:57 "Cool It Now" by New Edition
36 - 2:01 "It Takes Two" by Rob Base and DJ E-Z Rock
37 - 2:02 "Somebody Told Me" by The Killers
38 - 2:04 "Danger (Been So Long)" by Mystikal
39 - 2:07 "All Downhill From Here" by New Found Glory
40 - 2:11 "Here's Where The Story Ends" by Tin Tin Out/The Sundays
41 - 2:16 "Cruel Summer" by Bananarama
42 - 2:20 "Girl All the Bad Guys Want" by Bowling for Soup
43 - 2:24 "Game Time" by Rascalz
44 - 2:27 "Heros and Villians" by Brian Wilson
45 - 2:29 "Where'd You Go" by Mighty Mighty Bosstones
46 - 2:34 "Prevent This Tragedy" by Alkaline Trio


noelle Posted:
Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:07 am

Don't hate me/Dirty Little Secret/Crazy in Love/It feels good/We're at the top of the world/scenario/This is me/am I ready/she looks at me/If I could talk I'd tell you/All the things she said/it's gonna be me/here and now/so help me god/I'm that type of guy/work/$85 bucks an hour/new beginnings/hands clean/no myth/same song/she's crafty/buried myself alive/torn in two/I'm a fool/all 4 love/what's my age again/10 years old/what would you do/no more questions/where is my mind/since you've been gone/this charming man/fell in love with a girl/cool it now/it takes two/somebody told me/danger (been so long)/all downhill from here/ here's where they story ends/cruel summer/girl all the bad guys want/game time/Heroes and Villains/where'd you go/prevent this tragedy

:::::Music Mashup Puzzle of DOOM:::::<-- SOLVED!

  • Talk about the Brother puzzle in IRC CHAT
  • Discussion thread for Brother mashup
  • The Flickr Account Has Changed!


    The new picture on Flickr that sent Taylor into a panic:

    The original picture from the Flickr account:

    Run! - soccerstar4ever (LG15)

    OMG, why aren't you answering your phone! Daniel, you gotta help him! uploaded by Taylor Faction: THE RESISTANCE

    Re: Is Maxwell leaving the series? Online petition

    by The Creators
    on Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:15 pm

    Hey everyone,

    Get more people to sign the petition! Only 884 away from the goal. This is a very good thing for us to show to sponsors like Neutrogena about how much the community loves Spencer and the show.


    5on5:Everything Changes Flock Season 1 Finale

    5on5: Everything Changes - MainAntagonistProd

    5on5:Everything Changes Flock Season 1 Finale
    by immortal1
    on Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:17 pm

    The Flock ends it's 1st season with 5 season finale videos on Sept. 5, 2007!

    I'm really proud of the 40 videos we've turned out. If you think about it that's pretty amazing considering more could go wrong than could right. The cast are fans located across the US, Canada and UK. Any direction I could give I had to give through email! We've endured: finals, midterms, breaks, jobs, technical difficulties, personal insults and even death threats. Probably the biggest obstacle is lg15 itself! For example, writing stories about potential ceremony girls without ever knowing what the ceremony was has not been easy!

    If you've stuck with us this long, you'll want to see what happens next! Check out the:
    5on5:Everything Changes Flock Season 1 Finale Trailer

    To the cast: I'd like to thank the cast for all their hard work and for believing in me.

    Discussion thread for the 5on5 announcement.

    Hot Date - Daniel (LG15)

    Thanks everyone for finding the Flickr account, but I'm still not sure what it means. In the meantime, Mallory called... :) - Daniel Faction: THE RESISTANCE

    Gavin Steps Up (KateModern)

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    Welcome to DepartmentC

    This is an invitation to subscribe to youtube.com/DepartmentC. DepartmentC is a surveillance and decryption department covertly affiliated with FacilityJ, and headed by Jay Vector (aka JayNineteen).

    DepartmentC is dedicated to all activities undermining the pervasive infiltration of the order in all levels of society, but most specifically, the destruction of the J19 vials which were manufactured at Facility J.

    Please feel free to share this information with trusted associates whom you think may want to subscribe.



    The Story So Far... - Sophie (KateModern)

    Watch More Videos       Uploaded by www.bebo.com/MyKateModern

    Evil is what you make it - FrackedUp

    Took advantage of the lunar eclipse,
    scratch one Deacon.


    Music The Police "Murder by numbers" off the Synchronicity album, A&M records Erin McKeown "Rhode Island Is Famous For You." from the Sing You Sinners album, Nettwerk Records


    Wednesday, August 29, 2007

    Learning to Kick Tuchus - lonelyjewfifteen

    Even I need a montage...

    Jessica Lee Rose was on Ask a Ninja


    the invisible worm - thejanitorofoxford

    August 29, 2007

    Brother helps Tachyon out!

    To My "Sister"

    A *tiny* nudge toward the right track(s):




    The URL www.tinyurl.com/244wco leads to a new mashup.

    Listen to the new mashup from Brother to Tachyon here.

    Discussion thread for the new mashup from Brother to Tachyon

    Identified songs:
    0:00 - "This Is Me (Bad Boy Remix)" by P. Diddy and Dream
    0:08 - "Long Island" by Dog That
    0:24 - "I Want You To Want Me" by Letters to Cleo
    0:37 - "The Ripper Strikes Back" by LLCoolJ
    0:50 - "Good Vibrations" by The Beach Boys
    1:07 - "SharpShooter (Best of the Best) by Rascalz ft Bret 'Hitman' Hart

    Current theory: the songs in the 'new mashup" appear to be by the same artists as the "missing songs" in the big mashup. The Maddy team is currently trying to identify those "missing song". UPDATE: ***All songs have been identified!***

    The list of songs:

    #- Timestamp – Title - Artist
    1 - 0:03 "Don't Hate Me" by The Get Up Kids
    2 - 0:06 "Dirty Little Secret" by All-American Rejects
    3 - 0:09 "Crazy in Love" by Beyonce
    4 - 0:12 "It Feels Good" by Tony Toni Tone
    5 - 0:16 "We're At The Top Of The World" by Juliana Theory
    6 - 0:17 "Scenario" by A Tribe Called Quest
    7 - 0:20 "This Is Me (Bad Boy Remix)" by Dream feat. P. Diddy and Kain
    8 - 0:23 "Am I Ready" by Spitalfield
    9 - 0:26 "She Looks At Me" by That Dog
    10 - 0:26 "If I Could Talk, I'd Tell You" by The Lemonheads
    11 - 0:30 "All The Things She Said" by T.A.T.U.
    12 - 0:33 "It's Gonna Be Me" by 'N Sync
    13 - 0:37 "Here and Now" by Letters to Cleo
    14 - 0:40 "So Help Me God" by DC Talk
    15 - 0:40 "I'm That Type Of Guy" by LL Cool J
    16 - 0:44 "Work" by Jimmy Eat World
    17 - 0:46 "$85 bucks an hour" by Twiztid
    18 - 0:53 "New Beginnings" by Finch
    19 - 0:59 "Hands Clean" by Alanis Morrisette
    20 - 1:01 "No Myth" by Michael Penn
    21 - 1:02 "Same Song" by Tupac/Digital Underground
    22 - 1:06 "She's Crafty" by the Beastie Boys
    23 - 1:08 "Buried Myself Alive" by The Used
    24 - 1:11 "Torn in Two" by Wax
    25 - 1:15 "I'm A Fool" by American Hi-Fi
    26 - 1:20 "All 4 Love" by Color Me Badd
    27 - 1:24 "Whats My Age Again" by Blink 182
    28 - 1:26 “10 Year Old” by Mc Chris
    29 - 1:29 "What Would You Do" by City High
    30 - 1:34 "No More Questions" by Eazy-e
    31 - 1:41 "Where Is My Mind" by The Pixies
    32 - 1:43 "Since You've Been Gone" by Kelly Clarkson
    33 - 1:49 "This Charming Man" by The Smiths
    34 - 1:55 "Fell In Love With A Girl" by The White Stripes
    35 - 1:57 "Cool It Now" by New Edition
    36 - 2:01 "It Takes Two" by Rob Base and DJ E-Z Rock
    37 - 2:02 "Somebody Told Me" by The Killers
    38 - 2:04 "Danger (Been So Long)" by Mystikal
    39 - 2:07 "All Downhill From Here" by New Found Glory
    40 - 2:11 "Here's Where The Story Ends" by Tin Tin Out/The Sundays
    41 - 2:16 "Cruel Summer" by Bananarama
    42 - 2:20 "Girl All the Bad Guys Want" by Bowling for Soup
    43 - 2:24 "Game Time" by Rascalz
    44 - 2:27 "Heroes and Villians" by Brian Wilson
    45 - 2:29 "Where'd You Go" by Mighty Mighty Bosstones
    46 - 2:34 "Prevent This Tragedy" by Alkaline Trio

    So, what exactly is Tachyon trying to say. Do you have any idea. Leave us a comment below.

    deagol said....
    on Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:44 am

    I think he's babbling and trying to explain and apologize to Tachy because he's dating Oppy, and also working for/with her. Oppy won his heart by telling him a bunch of secrets of which he can't speak of. New job is not about creepy cults and myths, but it involves the same spy skills. "Oh yea and your old boyfriend fell in love with this girl (hey, you left him remember), and I've been told he's in danger. You ready to rumble?"

    It wouldn't surprise me, knowing the kind of slut he is.


    In the second episode of THE AFTER PARTY HAMmy discussed "Your Most Embarrasing Moment" with other fans.

    Max called in and fans talked about the Spencer petition

  • The After Party <---TUNE IN NEXT WEEK!

  • Iris Sparks off a CiW Speculation on the Cove!

    Iris appears to have touched a nerve over in Anchor Cove resulting in a fascinating discussion of who was behind Cassieiswatching.

    Vlogging Over. - TJmarsh

    hyemew said...

    If thesis students 50 years from now look back and research LG15, CiW would indeed be seen as a watershed moment which changed it forever. With just a simple little tantalizing video, 1000 ships were launched into a frenzy of unimaginable proportions. A thread about the video hit like 75 pages long within like 12 hours, it was absurd. This was the same time as the reveal, but the spotlight and even the entire show was actually being eclipsed by this little video about a (head) being dropped into the swimming hole.

    As CiW took a darker turn (perhaps too dark) various people including us decided for the safety of all we should drop it, because things were getting too insane (and frankly annoying). The Creators denied all knowledge of who CiW was, but suspicious still persists amongst those who remember or care.
    For example much later we found that I believe it was Greg Goodfried's sister who wrote on Alli Danziger's wall something about a severed head in a bag... this of course matched speculation surrounding what fans thought was in the bag (wasn't it AC who first came up with that hilarious theory?) The message seemed to implicate they were involved... and as we know Alli D's friend Amanda Goodfried turned her into a spin-off star herself post-Cassie. Amanda has done a whole lot of the side-stuff with LG15, and I would not be surprised one bit if it was she who did CiW (the Creators themselves denied involvement... but Amanda isn't a Creator. NikkiB denied being canon or connected to the LG15 project long after the actress was revealed to be Amanda Goodfried's real-life good friend. If NikkiB was not considered as being involved with the Creators by the Creators, then perhaps that explains their claim that CiW was not connected either despite possibly being orchestrated by one of their wives or other friends?
    They've been known to twist the truth in the past to save face) and frankly I don't see how a totally random unrelated fan could possibly have found the exact spot of the swimming hole without any help at all. Some have said that some people know those parks very well and could have recognized it, however as we know more recent LA fan gatherings have barely drawn anyone- to assert that a fan who also happens to have a deep knowledge of LA area parks took this initiative and did all that themselves.

    I could talk in circles about CiW speculation so I better stop, but basically the moral of the story is while the world has been silent on the disavowed CiW, I don't see how anyone except friends/spouses of the Creators could have possibly pulled that off, unless they had a stalker (which they didn't seem too concerned about). If it was a random fan, don't you think they might have eventually come forward with such an explosive secret after it was long ended? I mean itscassie revealed herself once the show was over, why not CiW? It could be because those same CiW people are involved with the series to this day and keep their secrets close. Also Glenn, famous for 'bringing down Cassie', still has some secrets of his own ( Tachyon uploading a video around the same time LG15 first started? How?). If I really wanted to speculate wildly, I might even suggest he was enlisted by the Creators to 'kill Cassie', so to speak, since she had gotten so out of hand. I mean hacking someone's phone... without their permission... is illegal... yet nobody seemed to mind, and as it just so happened that his own OpAphid took off and was 'canonized' thanks to her death. Makes you wonder if this canonization occured long before it actually went public...

    glenn said...

    Maybe the truth is stranger than fiction, in this case. The day there's a market for it, I'll be writing a "tell all." LOL.

    But really, you give me (and others) far too much credit, HyeMew--at least as far as foresight is concerned.

    However, the person behind CiW really did change the rules of the game. If anything, it tapped into much of the speculation around LG15 at a time when a large portion of the fanbase was receptive to its darker take on creepy religions.

    It also showed that a grass roots series could be marketed through an implied "tangental" connection to another online series (which LG15 did themselves at the beginning with Bree "shouting out" other vloggers).

    As for me...well, I had a story from a screenplay outline I'd written back in 2001 about a secret religious society and its "black ops" department vs. a secret agent investigating them. I also had some of the YouTube and domain names in place when I'd thought about telling that story online in January of 2006.

    So when I finally had the lightbulb go off to position it as a form of tangental/non-contradictory original fiction, I tested the waters...and after the establishing videos to set things up, you can see that my original storyline was getting started with "The Action of An Enemy" video. And of course...LG15 came knocking a good 3-4 days after that posting, completely throwing things into a state of disarray I've still yet to recover from. LOL.

    And I have my own theories RE: CIW, but I know enough to know that no one knows and apparently the PM wants it that way. But it definitely wasn't me or Miles/Mesh/Greg/Amanda

    Note: a minor edit was made to the original Hyemew post.

    Read the full discussion of Vlogging Over. - TJmarsh

    Eternal Freaks - jonastko (LG15)

    This whole situation with my parents is very bizarre. Not sure what to do. - Jonas

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    LGpedia needs your HELP!

    The Rescue - Charlie (KateModern)

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    A Year Ago Today

    Bree goes "Swimming!" and asks the age old question "what ever happened to that girl Cassie?" Yeah, I wish I knew.

    Posted on Archor Cove

    glenn said..

    Re: Swimming! [8.29.06]

    As an aside: Jessica doesn't have a scar or birthmark on her back. And what was placed there wasn't the Watcher symbol. For more on this (to date) red herring, see my never-to-be-published "tell all." LOL.

    But the main thing I wanted to say is:


    Sorry. That just came out... Anyhow. Hard to believe that it's been a year since this very influential/inspirational video hit YouTube.

    I doubt that any other LG15 video will ever have this much of an impact on "user generated content" ever again.


    The Hymn of One is Fun!

    Kew Gardens - tunnelwharf

    Giles & Katia

    The "Other" Ceremony - betz281 (Flock)

    The Other Ceremony.

    Tuesday, August 28, 2007

    Miles and Greg entertain the KM Production Team!!!

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    Fast Times At Zarbod High - Zarbod

    Zarbod has trouble concentrating after falling in love again.

    Voiceovers by angelboku1. Thanks Dear!

    This is a parody of a scene from Fast Times at Ridgemont High http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJfgVgxLGYQ

    ... millions are hooked by online soap

    RE: KateModern

    "Six months later, Bebo has its own teen drama, which costs as little as £30,000 a month to make but has already gone viral."

    "Goodfried did not seem too worried by the competition. "We're not afraid of the BBC,'' he said. "We are afraid of the two 13-year-old kids in their bedroom who are going to come up with the next thing.''"


    Research: halyetnicky

    Drunken Yodeling - Danielbeast (LG15)

    I'm not as dumb as I look, but my parents are.

    Music: "Screaming's Not an Option" By The Grey Race


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    Who is Mallory? Have you seen her? Do you know her? Who is she? Leave us a comment below.

    Forgiveness Prevails? - Charlie (KateModern)

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    Music Mashup of DOOM! Plz Help! - GregGallows

    If any of you can help identify the missing songs in this mashup pleasel eave a comment.

    Detailed song listings as well as an mp3 copy of the entire mashup and a zip file containing each individual can be found at the address below


    Were still missing clips

    7 (starts at 0:20 into the mashup)
    this clip can be heard at:
    looking for rap song

    9 (starts at 0:26 into the mashup)
    This clip can be heard at:
    Looking for Sha la la la's

    13 (starts at 0:37 into the mashup)
    This clip can be head at:
    looking for High pitched female vocals

    43 (starts at 2:24 into the mashup)
    This clip can be heard at:
    Looking for raps song "they harder they come they hardeer they .. fall" ... indicates many possible options, could/gonna/will/are

    44 (starts at 2:27 into the mashup)
    This clip can be heard at:
    Song is near the end of the clip right underneath unidentified rap song.

    Mashup can be heard/downloaded at:

    thank you!!


    Originally uploaded by nmahsjlcrowley
    kittenishtrance says
    on Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:02 am

    "This is the original SanteeUprisingWhites picture from the Legends of America website. I can't find the difference from the picture on the flickr account. Can someone show me where? I do see a Abe look a like, but he already exists on the unedited version of the pic, unless I am not looking in the right places."

    Source: http://www.legendsofamerica.com/photos-nativeamerican/SanteeUprisingWhites.jpg

    Long Live the Queen - acrowleyorder

    I visited Francis Bacon's tomb for the second time. I have way to much time on my hands so I made a little video.



    Monday, August 27, 2007

    Congratulations Acidfingers!

    Congratulations on kicking ass on Guild Wars at the PAX Tournament!

    Posted from the Guildwars.com official site:

    PAX $10,000 Tournament: Final Round

    Congratulations to Steve Mesa, winner of our PAX sealed play tournament! This lucky player demonstrated skill and tenacity, taking home a fully decked out AlienWare gaming laptop, $1,000 in spending money, and a Logitech G9 laser mouse.

    The tournament is entirely sealed play, with a total of 80 skills randomly assorted and distributed to players. Each player has 30 minutes to set up his or her character and three Heroes. In this time, players must devise a build from their sealed deck and then assign skills and equipment to themselves and their Heroes.



    Tachyon replied to addmusic3039:

    "I am not sure those are all 100% correct. Did you verify each with the original tracks for a side by side comparison? I have been working on it myself, but I really need you all to track and document your progress on this in a place where I can check it out.

    Until otherwise instructed, discuss here:


    And please try to get a few new sets of ears to take a listen. It could prove valuable.



    So come on, let's keep working-

    Big sister is watching.



    What is the significance?

    Killthesmiley said...
    The girl picture is completely out of place.
    Some history about it

    It's a painting by the french painter Edgar Degas. It was painted between 1860-62. It's not his most popular or well known, however there is a surprising link to Order references. He painted a painted entitles "Absinthe," in 1876. Random factoid. Edgar's most famous works were definitely of Ballet dances from the Paris Opera.

    ok next factoid that i'm researching. That odd box with "Minen" on it, translates to "Mines," in German. I figured it was german because every picture in that account links back to Nazists, Hitler, WW2 and/or the German army some how. Including Degas (his birth name is Hilaire-Germain-Edgar Degas)

    Maybe the new girls name is Hillary or Hilaire or German.

    Here's the wiki link for Edgar Degas:

    hayden618 said:
    Hey everyone,

    This is my first post so go easy on me please. Hopefully this wasn’t already said.. I only read the first 160 or so comments so far.

    Okay, this might make me sound totally off my rocker, and it could be a total stretch or just coicidental, but… I googled “August 30, 2007 Edgar Degas” and the first result was:

    “Events for August 30, 2007 at the GettyThursday August 30, 2007 2:30 pm Museum Galleries, Getty Center … It features works by artists such as Edgar Degas, Vincent van Gogh, and Georges Seurat, …
    http://www.getty.edu/visit/calendar/days/08302007.html - ”

    However when I clicked the link I couldn’t find any further information, maybe I’m just blind, but I thought I would post it for you all to look at. I’m horrible at solving these things.

    Here is the link:
    "Defining Modernity: European Drawings, 1800–1900
    Daily through September 9, 2007

    West Pavilion, Plaza Level, Getty Center

    The development of new materials, the expansion of artistic themes to include subjects from modern life, and the increased demand for images created by new print mediums all invigorated the practice of drawing during the 1800s. This exhibition surveys the depth and variety of 19th-century draftsmanship with works from the Getty Museum's collection and loans from the Courtauld Institute of Art in London. It features works by artists such as Edgar Degas, Vincent van Gogh, and Georges Seurat, who exploited the new subjects and materials of drawing and used traditional subjects and mediums in innovative ways. This exhibition inaugurates the new galleries for drawings on the Plaza Level of the West Pavilion. "

    NOTE: A collection of some of Degas' work.


    Hi Emma!

    Opppp, I mean Katherine Pawlak

    Katherine Pawlak on IMDB

    Katherine Pawlak on Linkedin
    Academy of Art University

    Katherine Pawlak on LGPedia

    Katherine Pawlak in "A Family Affair" on LGPedia.

    From LGPedia: "Katherine Pawlak is the actress playing the role of Emma.
    She has played characters in a few small movies, in music videos, on TV and in theater, and has also done work as a writer. Katherine is fluent in Spanish, plays the Clarinet, the Piano and the Guitar, can sing and dance, and is trained in martial arts."

    Who's Next? - LaRezisto (LG15)

    A picture is worth a thousand words...

    fuzzyypinktink says...
    The code has been figured out!
    "we know this file contains secrets about the order and the girls they seek. We must find the next girl. This card is heavily coded and time sensitive. Only the following could be removed at this point. watch closely. somewhere in these images is our girl."

    Who's Next? on LGPedia.

    LGpedia needs your HELP!

    NOTE: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11698522@N07 Flickr account

    Mashup Clip #7 Slowed - GregGallows

    Do You Recognize This Song? Can You Make Out Any Of The Lyrics? If So Leave A Comment Below!

    Heres the missing clip #7 slowed and edited, it's a little easier to distinguish.


    Explain yourself - Tariq (KateModern)

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    Sunday, August 26, 2007

    Bibbidi Bobbidi-To Do - lostgrl17 (Flock)

    Now I know how Cinderella felt!

    Right back at ya Zoey!

    Thanks for all your hard work on LGPedia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Shoutouts!- zoeydahling
    Shoutouts to my people.

    Music by A Perfect Circle.

    GregGallows is awesome for making this for me!

    Jonas mom?

    From: LGPedia: Tammy Klein (also credited as Tammy Len Troglin) is the actress that plays the role of Jonas's mom in the lonelygirl15 series. She has had roles on movies such as "Awaken the Dead," "Cougar Club," and "Electronica." She also appeared as herself on an episode of "48 Hours."

    Tammy Klein on LGPedia

    Tammy Klein on IMDB

    LGpedia needs your HELP!

    Backstage at KateModern

    The KateModern Portal

    Exclusive pics and news from the cast and crew (nearly as good as LG15Today for updates, but we still get there fiiiiirst!)

    Research: H

    August 08
    Meet the cast & crew... This is Hazel (Writer)
    "I’m now Director of my own production company licoricefilm.com/ which showcases all the short films, ads and music videos I’ve made. We’ve just launched Licorice-media.com to showcase our gaming projects. Earlier this year Licorice produced a very successfulAlternate Reality Game called Meigeist , which worked similarly to KateModern with websites, video, live event and all sorts of interactivity. We were overwhelmed with the fantastic response we had from the online gaming community

    If you want to become an "author" on Web Series Today please read: http://tinyurl.com/becomeaWSTauthor

    For more detailed information about Web Series Today please read: Web Series Today:

    For other info contact: [email protected]

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